VN Ren'Py Pale Carnations [Ch. 4 Up 4 Public] [Mutt & Jeff]

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TD1900

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You can tank Rosalind's affection early on rather easily, either during her first meeting (face fucking her and not apologizing), or by turning down her seduction during week 1. If you go the latter route (+no interview), according to one of our discord members who helped me test something, you can get like 15ish affection by the end of 4.4. Possibly a little more.

Not super high, but also not nothing.
 
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in different paths I have maximum Affection score (40) with all Carnations+Min-Hana as well as Kathleen :ROFLMAO: Ch4.Up3
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Ummmh said:
It's not about advertising that you've done something with the Carnations; it's that Kathleen or any patron with decent access to information resources could conceivably find things out. While it's POSSIBLE you could get away with/make job-related excuses for something, it would be a risk if patrons decide you rigged the game: could get explosive.

The problem is more prevelent if they caught you outright FVCKING one of the Carnations without Kathleen's explicit order, and that Carnation then does very well onstage.

I don't think it's "telling" what happened with Rose's affection (unless Rose gets off on being abused, in which case she would not have got much of that from me), although it's interesting that you went there, immediately.
I was nice to her, and *nice* to her, and NICE to her, and NICE TO HER, and FVCKING NICE TO HER FFS, and her affection stayed zero until I was nice to her in the p0rn video she had to make, when it suddenly jumped 2 points. WTF.
Unless she was looking to be abused by the MC idk what the problem was. I haven't done the walk through check so if she's masochistic that could explain the no-affection. Otherwise, idk . Maybe my game glitched.

The only one I could see any negative effect on affection was Veronica. Because she was so often verbally abusive to the MC, and tried to alpha dom him, I wasn't feelin' dat, so by the end of week 2, I only had 16 affection with her and that wasn't enough for me to give her comforting words when she got completely graped/destroyed in Kathy's petty and vindictive spider/strapon climax revenge-fest. I felt bad about not being able to comfort her after, because by that time she'd actually been acting less like a prick and became a more sympathetic character.

Actually, I WAS constantly killing my affection with KATHLEEN, because she's just such a sadistic psychopathic b1tch, and anything you do nice for the Carnations brings her down. I specifically did a couple of borderline things (like actually played w/"wrapped birthday gift" Harper instead of letting her down out of the straps) just to make sure MC didn't bottom out K's affection and maybe get a bad end game over (I don't know if that is a thing; haven't really poured through the walkthrough).
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There is no censorship on words here, you can write cum - fuck - bitch or whatever you want. We're not on twitter, youtube or any other mainstream site.
 
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TD1900 said:
You can tank Rosalind's affection early on rather easily, either during her first meeting (face fucking her and not apologizing), or by turning down her seduction during week 1. If you go the latter route (+no interview), according to one of our discord members who helped me test something, you can get like 15ish affection by the end of 4.4. Possibly a little more.

Not super high, but also not nothing.
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Interesting, I'm hanging at about half that (9 affection) and I've generally made pretty pro-Rosalind decisions (aside from refusing her deal). According to the walkthrough I lost 3 points by refusing to film the porno with her in the second exhibition, but I wonder where the other points were.
 
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ename144 said:
Interesting, I'm hanging at about half that (9 affection) and I've generally made pretty pro-Rosalind decisions (aside from refusing her deal). According to the walkthrough I lost 3 points by refusing to film the porno with her in the second exhibition, but I wonder where the other points were.
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I'm not sure. The play through I'm talking about actually posted 10 affection, but said I could add about +4 points because he lost some from spitting on Felicia and shocking her hard. It wasn't a completely fresh play through either, so I figured there's probably also a point here or grabbed.

It's good to hear your total, as I'm trying to come up with a reasonable affection gate for some content in the next update.
 
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TD1900 said:
I'm not sure. The play through I'm talking about actually posted 10 affection, but said I could add about +4 points because he lost some from spitting on Felicia and shocking her hard. It wasn't a completely fresh play through either, so I figured there's probably also a point here or grabbed.

It's good to hear your total, as I'm trying to come up with a reasonable affection gate for some content in the next update.
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I don't have time to do a full investigation, but it from a quick search of the walkthrough it looks like the other things I'm missing are 2 points from having Governor when Rosalind makes her initial offer, and 1 point from not having the threesome with Killian.

I don't see any way to get higher than that, though I didn't check if I'd missed any other points in the early game (for the record I had 14 total affection with Rose when I refused her deal). But 15 is probably pretty close to the hard cap for people who didn't interview Rosalind and turned down her deal.


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There're also a few points that can be gained or lost based on how you treat other Carnations during the exhibition (if Rose is there to witness it) so that could be a factor.
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Yeah, unsurprisingly I managed to avoid all those penalties (and even racked up a couple extra points by how I treated the others). Turns out being a big softie goes over well with Rose.

It's really just my refusal to have sex with her that causes issues. Go figure. :oops:
 
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ename144 said:
It's really just my refusal to have sex with her that causes issues. Go figure. :oops:
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To be fair, it's not so much refusal "to have sex" but to help her rig the contest in her favor. She isn't exactly heartbroken if you offer her to help her for free, no strings attached.
 
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ffive said:
To be fair, it's not so much refusal "to have sex" but to help her rig the contest in her favor. She isn't exactly heartbroken if you offer her to help her for free, no strings attached.
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Right, because you still have sex with her - at her insistence. The only way to avoid getting involved with her sexually is to stonewall her request completely. Unsurprisingly, she takes that rather personally.
 
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ename144 said:
Right, because you still have sex with her - at her insistence. The only way to avoid getting involved with her sexually is to stonewall her request completely. Unsurprisingly, she takes that rather personally.
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Yes, she insists on sex but not because she wants sex specifically (and she resents having it denied) but rather as guarantee/incentive for MC to try to uphold his part of the deal. She doesn't take offense if you tell her, "i don't want/need to have sex with you but i'll still help you" or when you tell her afterwards "fine, we'll do it your way but maybe i'll ask you to just hang around instead of fuck".
 
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ename144 said:
Right, because you still have sex with her - at her insistence. The only way to avoid getting involved with her sexually is to stonewall her request completely. Unsurprisingly, she takes that rather personally.
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Hot babe asks for sex and you refuse.

Standard reaction: WTF bro.
 
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-Start Club about Rosa -10 Affection points
-You do not accept Help Rosa fix the race -10 Affection points
I checked in the guide and then arrived at 45+Affetto Rosa before the end of Ch4 Up3
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I have a proplem installing the game on Android.. It keeps give me image not found when I open the game.. Ps: I did all the instrations.. Help thx
 
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This game has a lot of images, I wonder if it gets hard to define them. well not really since I use Generate Ren'py image file with gui from Terafri on Itch.io(
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). The stunning visuals on this game are mind blowing. whoever works on your art is a brilliant artist.
 
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