VN Ren'Py Pale Carnations [Ch. 4 Up 4 Public] [Mutt & Jeff]

[Takkatakka]

The key words are: "right now", as you write. Everybody should keep saves at those key choices.

What you call "fluff" I call it "what makes the game worthwhile following its sub-branches".

Yeah, I generally don't delete my saves anyway, but I will most likely do a complete re-run when the game is finished anyway.

Duno about anyone else but I'm looking forward to the selfish asshole goth GF path

She is neither selfish nor an asshole!

 

[pigg]

Just got round to playing the last update. It seemed short, but I had fun with it.

 

[jim88878]

If Hana, Mina and MC get a threesome it will be great.

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

Just got round to playing the last update. It seemed short, but I had fun with it.

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I feel called out by this.

 

[Ottoeight]

If Hana, Mina and MC get a threesome it will be great.

As They said, "it's just a question of time":

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[xslayermkdx]

If Hana, Mina and MC get a threesome it will be great.

Or Mina with Felicia & MC Threesome!

 

[lkjhgfdfghjkl]

People are always sleeping on Veronica x Mina combos and I don't know why

 

[Takkatakka]

People are always sleeping on Veronica x Mina combos and I don't know why

I wanted to write "because there is no direct connection between them"...but of course that isn't true. There is actually be a decent chance of that happening at some point. At the very least the foundations for it are already laid.

Pretty sure Veronica would be up for it 100%.

 

[misfolk]

Or Mina with Felicia & MC Threesome!

MC & Sophia & Warren threesome! You know, when August and Chuck decide that the old doctor is getting too uppity and needs to be shown his place.

 

[Turret]

MC & Sophia & Warren threesome! You know, when August and Chuck decide that the old doctor is getting too uppity and needs to be shown his place.

Very unprobable. From what we know about Sophia, she is the type of person who very exactly decides herself who she sleeps with and when. And a forced situation, baaad idea!
Sophia Lundgren is girlfriend material for Edwin! It is quite obvious from how they click together when they meet each other.

 

[Ottoeight]

Very unprobable. From what we know about Sophia, she is the type of person who very exactly decides herself who she sleeps with and when.

You are totally wrong.

She will do whatever Abel will tell her, because she is literally subjugated by him. If she loses a chess match with Chuck, she will be forced to have sex - and more - with him.

Anyway, the dude was joking, I guess.

 

[se20299]

Sophia very much seems to be the femme fatale of the story. I don't think she has much interest in Edwin herself. Abel probably ordered her to butter him up for something, and poor Edwin may or may not fall for it. Sophia and Abel are lawful neutral at best, and while not outright evil, I have no doubt Edwin is just another interchangeable pawn to them that also Kat and Chuck see him as. Sure, her chemistry with Edwin is off the charts, but I suspect she's deliberately honey trapping him for Abel to control.

Before we know it, Dr M̶e̶n̶g̶e̶l̶e̶ Abel will be pumping Edwin full of chems after being lulled by Sophia. Soriously, Edwin can't trust anyone associated with the club, except maybe Ian and Hana. None of them are remotely good people, and if Sophia's willing to work for a morally ambiguous guy like Abel, than you have the answer already regarding her character and morals.

 

[Ottoeight]

Sophia very much seems to be the femme fatale of the story. I don't think she has much interest in Edwin herself. Abel probably ordered her to butter him up for something, and poor Edwin may or may not fall for it. Sophia and Abel are lawful neutral at best, and while not outright evil, I have no doubt Edwin is just another interchangeable pawn to them that also Kat and Chuck see him as. Sure, her chemistry with Edwin is off the charts, but I suspect she's deliberately honey trapping him for Abel to control.

Before we know it, Dr M̶e̶n̶g̶e̶l̶e̶ Abel will be pumping Edwin full of chems after being lulled by Sophia. Soriously, Edwin can't trust anyone associated with the club, except maybe Ian and Hana. None of them are remotely good people, and if Sophia's willing to work for a morally ambiguous guy like Abel, than you have the answer already regarding her character and morals.

Sophia and Edwin? she's only testing the drug.

I think you totally overlooked the fact that uncle Chuck repeatedly affirms that Edwin is family and that he explicitly tells Kathleen to keep from involving Edwin with the drug testing (telling her that he knows about it, too).

I don't know how you're handling your gameplay, but I think any player might want to maximise his Chuck and Jacob friendship points.

 

[Balduko]

Very unprobable. From what we know about Sophia, she is the type of person who very exactly decides herself who she sleeps with and when. And a forced situation, baaad idea!
Sophia Lundgren is girlfriend material for Edwin! It is quite obvious from how they click together when they meet each other.

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[ename144]

People are always sleeping on Veronica x Mina combos and I don't know why

It's because of the way Veronica is initially presented.

Unlike the other Carnations, she has a somewhat confrontational attitude to the MC and it persists well into the second week of the Exhibition. As a result the audience isn't primed to think about all the things they could do with Veronica, we're primed to think about whether we can get Veronica at all (or, I suppose, whether we'd want Veronica at all for those who dislike her). Combine that with the, shall we say... enthusiasm Veronica shows towards getting into Mina's pants and it's no surprise she seems more likely to compete with us for Mina than she is to share her.

I assume that would change the next time they meet if the MC has pursued both of them, but having thoroughly friendzoned Mina I'd probably have to start yet another run to find out.

Very unprobable. From what we know about Sophia, she is the type of person who very exactly decides herself who she sleeps with and when. And a forced situation, baaad idea!
Sophia Lundgren is girlfriend material for Edwin! It is quite obvious from how they click together when they meet each other.

I don't think that's quite right. Sophia makes it pretty clear Abel decides who she sleeps with, and I take her at her word. I believe that Sophia decided for herself to accept this arrangement (she wasn't forced into it through extortion or trickery), so to that extent I agree with you. I would not, however, describe that as Sophia 'deciding exactly' on her own. A willing agent is still ultimately an agent, not a principal.

 

[lkjhgfdfghjkl]

Unlike the other Carnations, she has a somewhat confrontational attitude to the MC and it persists well into the second week of the Exhibition. As a result the audience isn't primed to think about all the things they could do with Veronica, we're primed to think about whether we can get Veronica at all (or, I suppose, whether we'd want Veronica at all for those who dislike her). Combine that with the, shall we say... enthusiasm Veronica shows towards getting into Mina's pants and it's no surprise she seems more likely to compete with us for Mina than she is to share her.

Bit of a shame if that is the case. Looking forward to a return of the awkward seductress and can't think of better prey for a naive first timer than an apex predator. Factoring in Veronica's switch tendencies and how susceptible she has been to Mina's charms it just seems like a fun dynamic to explore

 

[Ottoeight]

As usual, the most hardcore players fancy the most "peculiar" female characters, and sooner or later they start either brooding that their favourite chick is neglected or dissing the most "vanilla" girls.

It happens in every thread.

 

[Ottoeight]

Bit of a shame if that is the case. Looking forward to a return of the awkward seductress and can't think of better prey for a naive first timer than an apex predator. Factoring in Veronica's switch tendencies and how susceptible she has been to Mina's charms it just seems like a fun dynamic to explore

Well, I'm afraid you'll have to wait. Next update is starting on wednesday morning, and MC is going to have a date with Felicia on wednesday night. So, next update is Felicia action time.

MC's schedule for the next update might be: morning, meeting at MC's with Hana & Ian; afternoon, at Club's; chores' time; back at home, Rose quality time; Felicia date at night. Dunno whether the update will include thursday too.

 

[Turret]

You are totally wrong.

She will do whatever Abel will tell her, because she is literally subjugated by him. If she loses a chess match with Chuck, she will be forced to have sex - and more - with him.

Anyway, the dude was joking, I guess.

Sophia very much seems to be the femme fatale of the story. I don't think she has much interest in Edwin herself. Abel probably ordered her to butter him up for something, and poor Edwin may or may not fall for it. Sophia and Abel are lawful neutral at best, and while not outright evil, I have no doubt Edwin is just another interchangeable pawn to them that also Kat and Chuck see him as. Sure, her chemistry with Edwin is off the charts, but I suspect she's deliberately honey trapping him for Abel to control.

Before we know it, Dr M̶e̶n̶g̶e̶l̶e̶ Abel will be pumping Edwin full of chems after being lulled by Sophia. Soriously, Edwin can't trust anyone associated with the club, except maybe Ian and Hana. None of them are remotely good people, and if Sophia's willing to work for a morally ambiguous guy like Abel, than you have the answer already regarding her character and morals.

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First, my point was more about her private life. Second, what some members here overlook is the very Samurai-Daimyo like relationship of Abel and Sophia. She will inherit his medical empire once he retires and before this happens she is his loyal agent. So yes, she will sleep with others if Abel orders her to or if Sophia decides herself as with the screenshot from above, where she selftested the drug.
But what some overlook is that Abel and Sophia might be morally ambigious, but it is very clear from what we see in PC that Abel is very fond of Sophia and they play their own game. They are in the club soley for their own gain, not like other club members, I am really sure that Abel will order Sophia not more than strictly needed.
As for the chess game and considering the special disdain Abel has for Chuck, Abel is confident enough that Sophia is better at chess for as long as they need until the two make their move. It is pretty clear from what we learned that baring a cheat from Chuck, Sophia is a far better player than Chuck.

Sophia and Edwin would be a great fit, esp. for a morally grey goodish ending.

 

[Ottoeight]

First, my point was more about her private life. Second, what some members here overlook is the very Samurai-Daimyo like relationship of Abel and Sophia. She will inherit his medical empire once he retires and before this happens she is his loyal agent. So yes, she will sleep with others if Abel orders her to or if Sophia decides herself as with the screenshot from above, where she selftested the drug.
But what some overlook is that Abel and Sophia might be morally ambigious, but it is very clear from what we see in PC that Abel is very fond of Sophia and they play their own game. They are in the club soley for their own gain, not like other club members, I am really sure that Abel will order Sophia not more than strictly needed.
As for the chess game and considering the special disdain Abel has for Chuck, Abel is confident enough that Sophia is better at chess for as long as they need until the two make their move. It is pretty clear from what we learned that baring a cheat from Chuck, Sophia is a far better player than Chuck.

Sophia and Edwin would be a great fit, esp. for a morally grey goodish ending.

They don't have anything in common at all. And I think you're simply oblivious of the fact that she simply is a side character without scoring any game point whatsoever. The bouncers and August score game points, she doesn't. Just saying.

I guess you might feel the urge to write a Pale Carnation fan-fiction about her, methinks.