VN Ren'Py Pale Carnations [Ch. 4 Up 4 Public] [Mutt & Jeff]

[Saphfire]

Are you in the correct thread? Because while the story is still developing, a simply fuck em all will see to it that the consequences of your choices will be fucking YOU in the end! There are a lot of choices which already had consequences and will have consequnences in the future of the game. Not only the one LI you can choose in the end, but also what will happening with your friends and you.

Hm, who are the Love interests? I thought Felicia, but realized she´s just a gold digger. I love Romance games but i can´t see that happening. Could you point out the li´s for me? I quit after the "competition"... and the night that ended in the diner with felicia.

 

[Saphfire]

I suppose it depends on how you qualify romance, and what you want from the tag.

There's a big emphasis on getting to know, connect with, and empathize with the girls. That was there from the beginning, but there's also a couple of big romantic set pieces now, and you can GF up one of the heroines at this point too.

However, it's worth mentioning that the romantic undercurrent of the scenario is contrasted against exhibitions in front of dirty old men, cheating on spouses, and other unavoidable developments that someone who hates NTR enough to proclaim it in their signature will likely find distasteful.

I don´t hate ntr, i hate netorare. Since there is not a tag relating to this genre i think i´m save?
NTR can mean differnet aspects: netori (stealing girls), netorase (sharing girls) and netorare/cheating (girl has been taken from you).

 

[TheRealJohnCena69]

Hello i was wondering if there are any save files up to ch4 update 4? i lost my save files

 

[ename144]

Hm, who are the Love interests? I thought Felicia, but realized she´s just a gold digger. I love Romance games but i can´t see that happening. Could you point out the li´s for me? I quit after the "competition"... and the night that ended in the diner with felicia.

The LIs are the three Carnations (Rosalind, Veronica and Felicia), plus Mina and Hana. There are plenty of other girls the MC may be able to fool around with, but the LIs are the ones where we will spend a lot of time dwelling on what the MC feels about them.

 

[Shawnchapp]

Hm, who are the Love interests?

technically only Hana... she the only one you can date the rest of the girls you cheat on hana to be with (at least for now that might change later) the 3 carnations aren't technically LI's because 2 of them are married and the other is a lesbian Lol So you can't really be in a real relationship currently

 

[TD1900]

technically only Hana... she the only one you can date the rest of the girls you cheat on hana to be with (at least for now that might change later) the 3 carnations aren't technically LI's because 2 of them are married and the other is a lesbian Lol So you can't really be in a real relationship currently

Yeah, but if you don't call dancing under the moonlight or getting a personal portrait done at a secret hideaway romance, then we have differing ideas on that term.

Romance is what you see in romcoms, right?

 

[Shawnchapp]

Yeah, but if you don't call dancing under the moonlight or getting a personal portrait done at a secret hideaway romance, then we have differing ideas on that term.

Romance is what you see in romcoms, right?

oh theres romance but romance =/= committed relationship Lol you can have romance with felish but you can't be in the "LI" relationship with her when shes currently married.

So for me they aren't actually "LI"s (yet) there just girls you fool around with shes currently just a fuck buddy pretty much Lol

 

[starkj]

technically only Hana... she the only one you can date the rest of the girls you cheat on hana to be with (at least for now that might change later) the 3 carnations aren't technically LI's because 2 of them are married and the other is a lesbian Lol So you can't really be in a real relationship currently

Is Veronica even just a lesbian? Because she wouldnt fuck with the MC if she was, bi is probably more correct.

Also, how do you get Mina and Felicia scene in the last update?

 

[dolfe67]

technically only Hana... she the only one you can date the rest of the girls you cheat on hana to be with (at least for now that might change later) the 3 carnations aren't technically LI's because 2 of them are married and the other is a lesbian Lol So you can't really be in a real relationship currently

"Technically" they are LI. LI doesn't mean only (pure) wife material and they end up happy for ever

 

[Ottoeight]

oh theres romance but romance =/= committed relationship Lol you can have romance with felish but you can't be in the "LI" relationship with her when shes currently married.

So for me they aren't actually "LI"s (yet) there just girls you fool around with shes currently just a fuck buddy pretty much Lol

So ya think you aren't datin' our sweet goldilocks Mina, huh?

You're disappointing me, brah.

Now go and look her in the eyes and tell her: "you're not my date, we're just foolin' around". Come on, go for it

you two-timer

 

[Turret]

Hm, who are the Love interests? I thought Felicia, but realized she´s just a gold digger. I love Romance games but i can´t see that happening. Could you point out the li´s for me? I quit after the "competition"... and the night that ended in the diner with felicia.

The main LI´s in the game are Hana, Mina, Felicia, Rosi and Veronika. Also in the race, but with slowed foam, are Kath (for the bad boys and as...) and hopefully Dr. Sophia Lundgren (based on that there are changes in behavior depending on our choices).
As an aside, Felicia is more than just a golddigger.

 

[Idontplay]

"Technically" they are LI. LI doesn't mean only (pure) wife material and they end up happy for ever

If someone wants find some "wife material" in this game, he should… He should search in another game.

 

[TD1900]

LI doesn't mean only (pure) wife material and they end up happy for ever

That would be my use of the term, key word being interest. It's the potential for romance, the tension beneath the surface, and just general lover-like rapport. I mean, how many AVNs are there where you enter into a "committed" relationship before the climax, anyway?

To be fair, I can see having trouble believing the Carnations as love interests, and getting there is something I perceive as the biggest writing challenge rounding the corner into week 4. That's why week 3 has had a major emphasis on the interpersonal stuff.

And, I've said this before, but my idea of romantic ending is neither uniform across all five poster girls or necessarily "white picket fence."

 

[Takkatakka]

oh theres romance but romance =/= committed relationship Lol you can have romance with felish but you can't be in the "LI" relationship with her when shes currently married.

So for me they aren't actually "LI"s (yet) there just girls you fool around with shes currently just a fuck buddy pretty much Lol

I argued in the same direction a couple of months ago myself. It basically depends on what you define as "love interest". In "porn visual novel" terms all of the 5 girls are "LIs" as in the MC will (or already has) deeper relationships with them and ends of fucking them through the course of the game.

Now if we would use the definition one would take in real life, only Hana really is an LI so far. But over the last couple of update it becomes ever more obvious that there will also be deeper relationships with the other girls as well. The evening with Veronica was very romantic as well and could very much lead to a deeper relationship with her. The evening with Felicia pretty much cemented the MC at the very least as an affair for her. Mina also seems to get closer and closer to fall for the MC and open up to a more committed relationship in the near future. Rose...kinda remains to be seen.

We'll simply have to see where TD takes the relationships and on what level they might rise towards the end of the game. At some point they might start to exclude each other more and more and the player might have to decide which relationship he sees through to the end.

Of course the way the LIs are written (and as far as I understood a previous post by TD (Edit: he actually just wrote it again)) we won't just see a "and they lived happily ever after" with every girl (not sure, we'll see that with any girl, to be honest). But as things stand right now, there might be paths for a committed long lasting relationship with everyone of the girls.

All of them except Felicia are singles after all and...well the end of the present update could hint towards the demise of Felicia's current relationship status lets just say.

 

[Jerk-man]

Rose...kinda remains to be seen

After having sex with Ian, it’s somehow difficult to believe in a future with her together with Mc... I don’t even know how this story will progress after everything that we’ve seen, but everything is decided by TD1900 ... let's see what comes of this

 

[Takkatakka]

After having sex with Ian, it’s somehow difficult to believe in a future with her together with Mc... I don’t even know how this story will progress after everything that we’ve seen, but everything is decided by TD1900 ... let's see what comes of this

Yeah, she seems to be totally focused on her daughter and not ready for any other relationship...especially not to a 20 years younger employer of a sex club. Edwin is a lot closer to her daughter's age than to hers. But good luck to TD to maybe change our minds in the future.

 

[TD1900]

After having sex with Ian, it’s somehow difficult to believe in a future with her together with Mc... I don’t even know how this story will progress after everything that we’ve seen, but everything is decided by TD1900 ... let's see what comes of this

Hey!

I know a man who met his (ex)wife at a threesome.

I'd say the biggest impediment is the other stuff in the scenario.

 

[Takkatakka]

Hey!

I know a man who met his (ex)wife at a threesome.

Weeeeelllll...

 

[MAGO-DAG]

Weeeeelllll...

Well... they had a hot threesome, and what happened next remains a mystery

 

[Shawnchapp]

"Technically" they are LI. LI doesn't mean only (pure) wife material and they end up happy for ever

hense why i used the word "technically" to begin with caue if comes down to what you as the player defines as "LI"

So ya think you aren't datin' our sweet goldilocks Mina, huh?

You're disappointing me, brah.

Now go and look her in the eyes and tell her: "you're not my date, we're just foolin' around". Come on, go for it

you two-timer

well your not really dating her you just happen to be helping her with her "fuck list"

I argued in the same direction a couple of months ago myself. It basically depends on what you define as "love interest".

and i agree, but for me its more then just sex and romantic feelings there actually has to be a protenital for a relationship/future at the end for it to qualify as a "Love" interest for me. if there is no real future with them i just see it as fuck buddies. So far in the game there no real indication we well see the carnation after the month is over (yet) so as far as we know once the month is over we will never see them again so they're basically mark as people we fool around with for the month in my book until stated/shown otherwise

And to the people i didn't quote that said pretty much the same thing. No i don't mean you have to have them as your wife or have the white picket fence ending, there just has to be potential for a future together (including in w/e messed up way this game goes which im looking forward to see Lol) so more then just fuck buddies for the month that happen to have romantic feelings for each other

Is Veronica even just a lesbian? Because she wouldnt fuck with the MC if she was, bi is probably more correct.

Also, how do you get Mina and Felicia scene in the last update?

i'm pretty sure she is but cauwe this is a porn game and there is no such thing as a true lesbian in such games (for the most part) She's only "bi" for the MC

as for the threesom you need to have more then 3 Bi point with mina, you also had to cheat on her but NOT break it off with her so you have to be two timming Mina and hana



You'll get the flag at the beginning of the update and at the end of the update (assuming you pick the right choices) you have the option to invite Mina with you to felish place