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After the breakup, Mina will comment MC was right to suggest doing it as soon as possible, if that's what you did. Don't know if it has any other impact.
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No, that comes from the previous choice: helping her makes you Fuck Buddies, kissing her makes you Casual Lovers.
Not only that, as you already mentioned another choice that game records about Mina, a couple of things is recorded here. How high or low her relation score with Ian is, might also play a role later on.
In all of my three "canon" playthroughs (different LI choices) I tried to help Ian and Mina with their relationship. And when they break up, it should be noted that Mina´s love score with Ian, 6-7 points then, does not(!) fall to zero. I think this might play a role later in the game, depending on what else we do.
Those who have multiple saves, which ones do y'all roll with? My old save got messed up which is a good excuse to start over from the beginning and do a few different playthroughs. I was thinking at least 3 so that I can help each girl win the club competition. But may do more than 3 depending on what others say. It's hard sometimes to know the different paths possible when the game has different branches like this one does and it's not done yet.
Another one I was thinking of was having a save that tries to best set up a threesome of some sort with Hana and Mina. I know that's not a for sure confirmed possibility as far as I know, but it'd be nice to have a save slot there in case it does happen
Another one I was thinking of was having a save that tries to best set up a threesome of some sort with Hana and Mina. I know that's not a for sure confirmed possibility as far as I know, but it'd be nice to have a save slot there in case it does happen
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Well I dont really do a save focused on one specific girl, mostly because so far the game hasn't given me any reason to? I know it's not going to be Harem or anything but you can interact with every girl and have no problem with the others. That recently just changed with the Hana GF route so I'll have 1 save where I'm loyal to her, but being totally honest, considering the game is still somewhat far away from being finished I see no reason to start saves thinking too much on what ending I'll get, it's mostly something that'll happen eventually.
I'm happy with a save where I can enjoy the newest update and not miss out on it's content, regardless of which girl gets the spotlight
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Still, I would like to see Hana in a nun's costume
Welcome to the Pale Carnations Club, 47!
(For those not getting the joke: The "nuns" above are from Hitman: Absolution)
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By that metric absolutely all kids (and plenty of adults) are Psychopaths. Unsurprising, really, since it directly stems from being in an unequal dependence relationship (which is basically everybody) where direct conflict is not a workable option - kids and parents, wage slaves and their owners, people in relationships etc...
You are confusing choice to lie due to circumstances with having no compulsion to tell the truth in the first place. With the exclusion of actual psychopaths, all kids etc. are the case of the former, not the latter.
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Incorrect.
While there are bursts of such behavior in most children, especially the more intelligent ones, children confronted with their lies and asked to explain them will often tell the truth. As I understand it, children lying is usually more identity boundry experimentation, than actual materialist investment.
More, some kids are more strongly predisposed towards accurate information relation from the get-go and, for a certainty, most adults do NOT exhibit the LACK OF EMPATHY AND CONSCIENCE necessary to REFLEXIVELY lie (without an INTERNAL CHECK ON BEHAVIOR) that psychopaths and sociopaths exhibit.
A certain amount of doublethink is required to lie, but that is not much of a factor for psychopaths, and it seems like they might not see the innate need for truth unless it is directly useful towards their goals, or direct consequences are brought upon them for lying.
Lying is not innately an unequal dependence relationship, though there is overlap, and cases where an individual is in a disadvantaged position will probably exacerbate the probability of lying. Lying also very often occurs when a person has power over others but simply doesn't feel any concern for telling the truth, or even just enjoys the experience of lying, if they are truly bent. Consider that the Nazis were in no way in a disadvantaged position, relative to the Jews in the concentration camps, when the Nazis lied and told them the gas chambers were regular showers.
An argument COULD be made, tho, that there is an unequal dependence relationship between the psychopath **and all of existence**, in that psychopaths engaging in lying to control people in order to feel they are powerful **in the face of what they likely perceive as an innately inimically chaotic universe** might be viewing the individual as being a small **and controllable** part of that universe. This supposition is, however, as previously noted, conjecture on my part, tho it does seem to comport with the pattern psychopaths notably and even characteristically oft exhibit.
I can go into that more but it would be much more developed discussion and not really correct material for this discussion thread.
I will also say that modern society, especially as propelled by social media, seems to have a unfortunate increasing trend towards rampant narcissism, which can indeed result in a more commonplace occurrence of dishonesty: a trend that a younger audience, brought up only experiencing a world full of social media, might then mistake for a natively commonplace state.
On the other hand, it could quite easily be that social media, like certain drugs, simply brings out the traits of a person that were already there beneath the surface. Nonetheless, there does seem to be quite a bit more, and more virulent narcissism in the world than there was prior to the predominance of Facebook, TikTok, etc.
This is definitely getting more and more off topic, though.
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Often made question. Currently we cannot say if that is the case. Maybe(!), just maybe, depending on how we play the game it could happen or not.
What we can say is that Vicki is more of a Mom for Ian than his real mother has been. Ian is more open with her, beside the MC, than anyone else.
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Updated my compressed Android port of Pale Carnations with Shawnchapp's walkthrough mod to Chapter 4 Update 4.
Got some basic gestures loaded in: swipe up for save menu, swipe down to hide UI, swipe left to rollback and swipe right to skip. Save files are now stored in the Documents folder. This sometimes means that you may need to close and re-open the port after installing so the save folder is properly created.
Due to the size of this game, I've split it out so you will need to install the apk, run it to get it to create the game folder that can be found in your Documents folder: Documents/Eonor/e.palecarnations/game. Then move the archive.rpa file into that folder and re-run the port.
Please let me know if you encounter any issues with the ports and I'll see what I can do to get them sorted.
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Got some basic gestures loaded in: swipe up for save menu, swipe down to hide UI, swipe left to rollback and swipe right to skip. Save files are now stored in the Documents folder. This sometimes means that you may need to close and re-open the port after installing so the save folder is properly created.
Due to the size of this game, I've split it out so you will need to install the apk, run it to get it to create the game folder that can be found in your Documents folder: Documents/Eonor/e.palecarnations/game. Then move the archive.rpa file into that folder and re-run the port.
Please let me know if you encounter any issues with the ports and I'll see what I can do to get them sorted.
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Unfortunately not: see Edwin's reaction, when he find out Ian in his' mom bed (with his mom of course), would have been hilarious.
No, Ian seems to think of Victoria more like a mother figure than his own mother, to the point where he gets squicked out when she tells him that yes, she does have sex occasionally.
The prospect of Ian finding out about Victoria's porn career is one of things i dread the most when it comes to plot developments of this game, because it's likely to absolutely ruin their current dynamic (and relations with Edwin) given Ian's treatment of women he perceives as sex objects, something Victoria so far seemingly avoided.
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Ironically, I think Ian would take it much harder than Edwin, given his hatred for most women, whom he percieves as cold hearted sluts, due to Chuck's negative influence and his own mother being a piece of work. That's why he has such a hard time with Mina, who has been nothing but loving and loyal to him, thus invalidating his worldview, and thus he constantly tested her boundaries so he could paint her as a shallow slut he believes her to be.
If he ever found out what sorts of nasty things Vicky did in the past, thst would absolutely destroy any chance he had of changing his ways. Like you said, while Edwin's mostly supoortive of his mother dating around and getting laid, Ian seems to be disgusted when Vicky talks about having casual sex, mostly because he doesn't know about her past and thus has a more distorted view of her than Edwin does, and Edwin's view of his mother is already pretty far from reality.