VN Ren'Py Pale Carnations [Ch. 4 Up 4 Public] [Mutt & Jeff]

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Just keep Hana as a fuckbuddy, and you're free to fuck everyone

 

[Skeltom]

Just keep Hana as a fuckbuddy, and you're free to fuck everyone

Sure, but you can sleep with whoever you want in this anyway. Her being a GF doesn't change that. Staying monogamous with her on the other hand is something out of the norm for this particular game. It's just whether to stick with it or not. It's a good option to have I think.

 

[Turret]

Hey!! Some of us like to think we're camped out on Edwin's other shoulder!

Have to second you on this, definitely!

Do you think he has any right to take the moral high ground? Not to mention you can basically call him a has been in front of a bunch of patrons and he doesn't do anything about it. Not for now at least.

Well, when it comes to August and your relationship with his daughter there are two major points to remember. One is that if we made the attempt during the game to get halfway in August´s good graces, we learn during several situations that he is ok with our relationship with Hana, be it "just" FwB or boy/girlfriend.
The second is something our "home invaders" Abel and Sophia told us. August is a man you should not give a reason to think you are becoming a problem. So your "has been" example is something you do at your own risk. There is a fine line between showing some backbone and becoming an annoyance.

 

[ename144]

Actually your casual lovers with Mina before the hana GF choice it would make sense to bring it up at that point that you made a "promise" to Mina and see how Hana feels about it and if thats a big no from her (doubtful since she really likes her and lets you fuck everyone at work LOL) is when she could can tell you but right now the story goes you become lovers with Mina and make promise/deal then Hana you have the choice to date or cheat or say go fuck yourself.. then you can tell Mina about Hana... I'd much rather of the option to tell Hana the first time around about the mina thing (she cn say no thats fine) just seems weird as fuck you don't have the option to mention it since you start things with Mina first not Hana

like im not even asking for her to allow you to be with mina just the option to be up front with her from the get go like "yes lets do this but just so you know me a Mina fouled around already and made deal so i'll have to tell it can't happen anymore tomorrow" Cause you know thats kinda what "transparency" means.. to be up front with your shit.

That's what I was thinking as well. Even more of a reason to be able to tell Hana about Mina. She already says she would like to teach her a few things so who knows. At the very least you would know where she stands with that whole deal. Then you could tell Mina if she was or not or just say fuck it and go for it no matter how she feels. Just a thought.

I don't understand what people think would be accomplished by name dropping Mina in this situation.

The MC already has the option to enter into a non-exclusive relationship with Hana, and Hana will accept it without question. You don't need to go into details, just take "yes" for an answer! Sure, the MC could bring up Mina in hopes of setting up a threesome down the line, but what's the rush? Better to let Hana get used to her new fuck buddy arrangement before going for a triple body score. There's plenty of time to propose this later.

Meanwhile if the MC picks the girlfriend route, bringing up Mina is completely nonsensical. The whole point of that route is that the MC wants to make a special commitment to Hana despite their circumstances. The MC is promising to eschew all other women outside the Club; Mina is another woman outside the Club, so she's included automatically. The only reason to mention her specifically would be to ask for an exception, which would be both insulting and counterproductive in these circumstances.

If you're worried about locking yourself out of future content with Mina and Hana together... don't pick the girlfriend route. How is this complicated?

Well, when it comes to August and your relationship with his daughter there are two major points to remember. One is that if we made the attempt during the game to get halfway in August´s good graces, we learn during several situations that he is ok with our relationship with Hana, be it "just" FwB or boy/girlfriend.
The second is something our "home invaders" Abel and Sophia told us. August is a man you should not give a reason to think you are becoming a problem. So your "has been" example is something you do at your own risk. There is a fine line between showing some backbone and becoming an annoyance.

I don't know that we should put *too* much stock in anything Abel says. His description of August is certainly plausible, but he doesn't provide any hard evidence for his speculation and Abel's motives are highly suspect.

That said, it's obvious pissing off August would be a bad idea, the question is what that would take. At the moment, his overriding priority seems to be bonding with Hana. He evidently thinks having the MC around the Club helps Hana feel comfortable. She likes the MC (the exact amount depending on our choices) and clearly feels better having him around - both as someone her age, and as a fellow newcomer trying to find their role in the place.

I suspect August is willing to tolerate a fair amount of disrespect as long as the MC continues to serve the main goal. If the MC should stop making Hana comfortable, that's when we'll need to walk a lot more carefully. And if the MC manages to piss Hana off enough to be a net discomfort to her, that's when things could quite literally end in blood.

All the more reason not to cheat on her.

 

[Skeltom]

If you're worried about locking yourself out of future content with Mina and Hana together... don't pick the girlfriend route. How is this complicated?

Who said it was complicated? I'm not worried about being locked out of anything. I chose being in a relationship expecting to be faithful after that point. I just think it would have been nice to be able to see how Hana felt about it, nothing wrong with that.

 

[Shawnchapp]

Who said it was complicated? I'm not worried about being locked out of anything. I chose being in a relationship expecting to be faithful after that point. I just think it would have been nice to be able to see how Hana felt about it, nothing wrong with that.

yup same here (not like i'm worry about "locking myself" out of routes i play every single route in this game with cheats LOL)

 

[TD1900]

The whole point of that route is that the MC wants to make a special commitment to Hana despite their circumstances. The MC is promising to eschew all other women outside the Club; Mina is another woman outside the Club, so she's included automatically. The only reason to mention her specifically would be to ask for an exception, which would be both insulting and counterproductive in these circumstances.

I'll also add there's the potential of the sugar baby stuff with Felicia, and the deal with Rose. If Edwin's going to be fully transparent, there is a whole can of worms to be opened. Although, I do find the thought of him breaking out an itemized list of his ongoing dalliances to his newly minted girlfriend kinda funny.

 

[pinuz1]

Two of my favorite scenes in this game are the Ian card game the first night with Mina and Felicia and the "never have I ever" birthday night with Hana, Mina and Ian. Will there be more of these in the future?

I've come to enjoy the wholesome vanilla interactions of the main characters way more than the crazy exhibitions somehow.

 

[White cat6]

Interesting. It just seemed to me that Rosalind was Darius’s mother, Stella.
Too smart for a tortured housewife.
Too illuminated.
And when they called to Hawaii, she left the room both times.
If this is so, then her goal in the club is not money at all.

 

[Randomguy3478]

Interesting. It just seemed to me that Rosalind was Darius’s mother, Stella.
Too smart for a tortured housewife.
Too illuminated.
And when they called to Hawaii, she left the room both times.
If this is so, then her goal in the club is not money at all.

 

[Idontplay]

Interesting. It just seemed to me that Rosalind was Darius’s mother, Stella.
Too smart for a tortured housewife.
Too illuminated.
And when they called to Hawaii, she left the room both times.
If this is so, then her goal in the club is not money at all.

Now that I think about it, we never saw Rosalind and the Darius' mother in the same room together. Is it a coincidence? I don't think so.

 

[White cat6]

Now that I think about it, we never saw Rosalind and the Darius' mother in the same room together. Is it a coincidence? I don't think so.

I'm not talking about this as a fact, but as a possibility.
Rose is smart. She easily puts Kilian in his place when he tries to insult her.
She is aware that they are looking for Darius, which is impossible since she cannot know Darius.
When they are about to call Hawaii, she finds an excuse to leave the room and returns only after the call fails. Then he is in the room and goes into the shower again. And it is at this moment that Stella calls. Rose appears in the room only some time after the telephone conversation.
As they say, draw your own conclusions.

 

[Skeltom]

To me another odd part about the Hana GF path, I know broken record, is the fact that Rose is seemingly unfazed by the whole thing. She is basically in the same room when she shows up in the morning saying "Hey, boyfriend." And Rose never even askes the MC about it. Like if it will effect their deal or are we done now or... anything at all. The the MC can go out of his way to tell like every other character in the game about his new relationship. Unless I just missed a conversation with her. Could be.

 

[Ungawa]

To me another odd part about the Hana GF path, I know broken record, is the fact that Rose is seemingly unfazed by the whole thing. She is basically in the same room when she shows up in the morning saying "Hey, boyfriend." And Rose never even askes the MC about it. Like if it will effect their deal or are we done now or... anything at all. The the MC can go out of his way to tell like every other character in the game about his new relationship. Unless I just missed a conversation with her. Could be.

Rose is mainly adaptability. I've said it in the past, and it comes up that she's the one that rolls with the punches and figures out what's best for her in the end. Mostly, it also comes back to bite her in the form of consequences she can't see (that being the deal or a more sadistic Edwin)

 

[Rhagnar]

How can one approach Ian to help with Rosalind's problem? To unlock her last render that is.

 

[Skeltom]

How can one approach Ian to help with Rosalind's problem? To unlock her last render that is.

Ask Chuck for help with Rose's problem, I think. And then accept Ians deal. Not sure because I'm not into the whole MMF thing.

 

[Ottoeight]

I'm not talking about this as a fact, but as a possibility.
Rose is smart. She easily puts Kilian in his place when he tries to insult her.
She is aware that they are looking for Darius, which is impossible since she cannot know Darius.
When they are about to call Hawaii, she finds an excuse to leave the room and returns only after the call fails. Then he is in the room and goes into the shower again. And it is at this moment that Stella calls. Rose appears in the room only some time after the telephone conversation.
As they say, draw your own conclusions.

I'm just wondering whether you are for real or you are simply trolling us.

Either way, as far as I'm concerned, you are free to believe in any delusional twisted plot theory you want to believe in.

That's the problem with you guys who grew with all this shitty pop culture: you think that nonsensical plot twists are smart and good.

 

[Skeltom]

I'm just wondering whether you are for real or you are simply trolling us.

Either way, as far as I'm concerned, you are free to believe in any delusional twisted plot theory you want to believe in.

That's the problem with you guys who grew with all this shitty pop culture: you think that nonsensical plot twists are smart and good.

Right? I can't see it myself. There is no reason she couldn't possibly know about him and even more unlikely that Mrs. P wouldn't rub something like that in her face, even taking their past into consideration.

And unless Rose is somehow tucked away in an open floor plan studio apartment with a voice modulator both of them would absolutely know what Rose sounds like.

 

[Idontplay]

Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure there was a guy who threatened Rosalind to pay for her husband's debt, otherwise…

 

[ename144]

Who said it was complicated? I'm not worried about being locked out of anything. I chose being in a relationship expecting to be faithful after that point. I just think it would have been nice to be able to see how Hana felt about it, nothing wrong with that.

How Hana felt about what exactly? She already knew the MC wasn't a virgin, and asking her to comment on his recent trysts right out of the gate seems gauche.

If the question is how Hana feels about the MC two-timing his best friend, then yeah, that might be interesting. I still think it wouldn't make much sense to mention Mina though, since the MC isn't exactly proud of that action; I don't see him being eager to discuss it with someone in regular contact with Ian. Besides, we can more or less guess Hana's general reaction already (surprised but not particularly concerned about Ian's well being), and getting into details would be better saved for another day rather than adding still more content to Hana's date.