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I think the thing to discuss here is, are "NTR" and "Cuckolding" the same thing? Or are they different things? I think they are different. Because "Netorare" is a combination of two words, one of which means "stealing". As far as I know, there is no "stealing" in cuckolding. Moreover, there is mutual consent. That's why I think this game is not NTR but cuckolding. In this game, Eric does not steal, Max allows Eric. They make an agreement as if they were "shopping" on some issues. Max is not happy about this, but there is no stealing either. Actually, this game is stuck somewhere in between. It is not NTR, it is not cuckolding (of course, I am saying this assuming that they are two different things).
Cuckloading is where you willingly share someone you love to another person, here the NTR tag is for that you love someone and the villan (or Eric) takes that person away from you to then humiliate, share (based on different definitions). It kind of similar but cuckloading is where your partner will come back to you , but in this case of NTR she might not.
 

reidanota

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In this game, Eric does not steal, Max allows Eric. They make an agreement as if they were "shopping" on some issues. Max is not happy about this, but there is no stealing either.
here the NTR tag is for that you love someone and the villan (or Eric) takes that person away from you to then humiliate, share (based on different definitions). It kind of similar but cuckloading is where your partner will come back to you , but in this case of NTR she might not.
I'm a bit confused. Does your partner come back to you after what could be a chapter of humiliation, or does she not? Both your view points agree on that the MC isn't happy about sharing their LI with Eric. Does this mean he's portrayed as a pushover, or does he have reasons to do "business" with Eric? I don't mind spoilers. I can see there may be a fine line here between NTS and NTR and that's what appeals to me, but I'd like to know it there's some point where you can flip the game on Eric and either win back your LI exclusively, or at least end in a situation where you're in control (as in, not simply accepting because you find out you have a fetish for being humiliated). I think I read somewhere in this thread that the "deal" with Eric is one-sided, and you don't get anything out of it - is that the case, is it unavoidable if you take the sharing path, or can you play it to get some satisfaction from it in the end, come out on top, have your LI tell Eric she's yours even if you're sharing, something like that.
 

troube12345

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I'm a bit confused. Does your partner come back to you after what could be a chapter of humiliation, or does she not? Both your view points agree on that the MC isn't happy about sharing their LI with Eric. Does this mean he's portrayed as a pushover, or does he have reasons to do "business" with Eric? I don't mind spoilers. I can see there may be a fine line here between NTS and NTR and that's what appeals to me, but I'd like to know it there's some point where you can flip the game on Eric and either win back your LI exclusively, or at least end in a situation where you're in control (as in, not simply accepting because you find out you have a fetish for being humiliated). I think I read somewhere in this thread that the "deal" with Eric is one-sided, and you don't get anything out of it - is that the case, is it unavoidable if you take the sharing path, or can you play it to get some satisfaction from it in the end, come out on top, have your LI tell Eric she's yours even if you're sharing, something like that.
If you have never played/heard of it, this post will contain SPOILERS.

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It goes like this, Max (MC) learns Eric's secrets that could darken his life. The game then offers us 3 options (actually 2);

1- Report Eric to the mafia he had problems with before and have him leave the house and even the city.
2- Give Eric's secrets to the woman who runs the nightclub (Kate's mother) and have her use him as a slave there, thus preventing him from appearing before us.
3- Reaching an agreement with Eric.

While the first two options allow us to get rid of Eric, the third option opens the way for NTR. The real problem here is that MC is the strong side when making an agreement, MC is the one with the trump card, but Eric is the one who gets everything he wants in the game. Once you enter the NTR path, you cannot go back. You have to do what Eric wants to advance the game. However, MC is the one who blackmails. Before fully entering the NTR path, Eric, although it is known that he is in a relationship with Anna, is trying to get the women in the house, in other words, steal from the MC as the story requires (by force or by seducing). In other words, he can be called NTR. However, when you choose the NTR path (i.e. when you make a deal with Eric), there is no stealing anymore.

First, Max demands that Anna get close to him sexually. Eric says that Anna will not accept this, but he says that he can arrange sex lessons. In return, he demands to get close to Alice. Max invites Eric to the broadcasts with Alice as part of this agreement. Since Eric, Alice and Max being in the same room at home would attract suspicion, they go to Eric's house. Later on, Max allows Alice to give Eric a blowjob, but they are not allowed to have sex. Then Eric breaks this ban, and Max submits as if he is not the one blackmailing. (Maybe this part can be described as "stealing" but Max can say you broke the deal and stop Eric from broadcasting, after all Max has the trump card. Since he is in a position to blackmail Alice, it would be absurd for Alice to act as she pleases.) Later on, Eric starts not allowing Max to come to the broadcasts at his own house, but as I said Eric is the one who is threatened with death....

This is the main problem of the game, it creates the illusion of a choice but there is none. The blackmailer is MC but the one who acts as if he is being blackmailed is MC. The only place where we really make a choice is when we decide whether to get rid of Eric or not. Everything after that is an illusion. After making a deal with Eric, we are not allowed to break the deal. We have to fulfill every request or the game does not progress. The side opportunities (this is how the game is called) are not independent of each other. The game always gets stuck somewhere. The path without NTR does not continue and does not contain animation. If you like the in-game graphics etc. you can also try NTR but as I said it is a more forced path. I think we should be able to get rid of Eric whenever we want and go the non-NTR path. However the producer did not choose to do this. Since there is an agreement, it is debatable whether it is really NTR or Cuckolding.

I wrote too much. English is not my native language, so there may be mistakes. I used translation.
 

reidanota

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Thank you very much for taking the time to write this. I have decided not to play this game, based on your words, that confirm what others have written here.

If the author reads this, let them know I'm not making criticism of a game I haven't even played, but it seems like the story doesn't follow a solid thread, which would be a shame, but could be fixed in the future? Here's to hoping they might fix it sometime, and if so, that they allow for a more clear NTR path (Eric should have some card to play too, or that whole situation doesn't make any sense) but with an exit path for the player. I don't enjoy submissive cuckold characters, or sour endings, but don't mind a temporary chapter where the MC has to endure his LI being stolen, as long as it's not final and things get straightened up in the end. Unfortunately, this isn't what most authors write about... They're either targeting a masochistic audience, or keep to consensual sharing. Nuance is the spice of live, I say :p
 

PornGodNoob

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About getting rid of Eric at any stage
You as players think it's very simple, but you don't realize, it's not that simple.
Here it is now, at the current update on the NTR path:
- Anna only guesses about Max's sex with Alice, but has never seen it in person
- Max already has sex with Anna.
- Max has already had anal sex with Alice.
- Anna knows that Kira is having sex with Max.
Now let's remember what happened in the original story after getting rid of Eric:
- Anna had problems at work and had to do porn because of it.
- anal sex with Alice and the fact that Max had sex with Alice while filming porn with Ann.
- Anna found out about Max's sex with Kira while practicing before filming.
- Max and Anna had sex only after Anna started doing porn alone.
And so if you get rid of Eric now, how does that tie into the original story without Eric? Well, you can't corrupt a family through porn, now they're having sex all over the place. And to remove Eric in the previous updates, so you have to somehow take into account every stage of the relationship between the characters. It's gonna be complicated. Besides, I've said many times that I have no plans to develop a path without NTR. Well get rid of it, somehow it will be rude to do that everyone knows about each other. And then what?

NTR is not NTR.
Well, it depends on how you look at it. In my story, it's a confrontation between Eric and Max. Yes, Max can get rid of Eric, but since Max has already had sex with family members, not just Kira, Eric can report somewhere before he disappears that the family is practicing incest.
 

Pichurro

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About getting rid of Eric at any stage
You as players think it's very simple, but you don't realize, it's not that simple.
Here it is now, at the current update on the NTR path:
- Anna only guesses about Max's sex with Alice, but has never seen it in person
- Max already has sex with Anna.
- Max has already had anal sex with Alice.
- Anna knows that Kira is having sex with Max.
Now let's remember what happened in the original story after getting rid of Eric:
- Anna had problems at work and had to do porn because of it.
- anal sex with Alice and the fact that Max had sex with Alice while filming porn with Ann.
- Anna found out about Max's sex with Kira while practicing before filming.
- Max and Anna had sex only after Anna started doing porn alone.
And so if you get rid of Eric now, how does that tie into the original story without Eric? Well, you can't corrupt a family through porn, now they're having sex all over the place. And to remove Eric in the previous updates, so you have to somehow take into account every stage of the relationship between the characters. It's gonna be complicated. Besides, I've said many times that I have no plans to develop a path without NTR. Well get rid of it, somehow it will be rude to do that everyone knows about each other. And then what?

NTR is not NTR.
Well, it depends on how you look at it. In my story, it's a confrontation between Eric and Max. Yes, Max can get rid of Eric, but since Max has already had sex with family members, not just Kira, Eric can report somewhere before he disappears that the family is practicing incest.
I like what you says about the corruption without Eric...
But i just want to know where the fuck Anna is going in his date night and what will happen..., WE NEED TO KNOW!
(Some tatoo near his pussy or some piercing could be nice in Anna)
 
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jamiehmcw91

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We shouldn't get rid of Eric until he's impregnated the whole family.
If you must get rid of Eric, it should be after he has impregnated Anna, Kira, Alice, and Lisa.
Defo agree. Love too see some baby bumps. And would be good if Annna,Kira,Lisa and Alice ask Eric too cum inside them and knock them up.
 

troube12345

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About getting rid of Eric at any stage
You as players think it's very simple, but you don't realize, it's not that simple.
Here it is now, at the current update on the NTR path:
- Anna only guesses about Max's sex with Alice, but has never seen it in person
- Max already has sex with Anna.
- Max has already had anal sex with Alice.
- Anna knows that Kira is having sex with Max.
Now let's remember what happened in the original story after getting rid of Eric:
- Anna had problems at work and had to do porn because of it.
- anal sex with Alice and the fact that Max had sex with Alice while filming porn with Ann.
- Anna found out about Max's sex with Kira while practicing before filming.
- Max and Anna had sex only after Anna started doing porn alone.
And so if you get rid of Eric now, how does that tie into the original story without Eric? Well, you can't corrupt a family through porn, now they're having sex all over the place. And to remove Eric in the previous updates, so you have to somehow take into account every stage of the relationship between the characters. It's gonna be complicated. Besides, I've said many times that I have no plans to develop a path without NTR. Well get rid of it, somehow it will be rude to do that everyone knows about each other. And then what?

NTR is not NTR.
Well, it depends on how you look at it. In my story, it's a confrontation between Eric and Max. Yes, Max can get rid of Eric, but since Max has already had sex with family members, not just Kira, Eric can report somewhere before he disappears that the family is practicing incest.
First of all, I know that it is easy for me to talk from here. But I still have something to say.

"Well, it depends on how you look at it. In my story, it's a confrontation between Eric and Max. Yes, Max can get rid of Eric, but since Max has already had sex with family members, not just Kira, Eric can report somewhere before he disappears that the family is practicing incest."
This part is the easiest: Give Eric sleeping pills while he is in his own house and make him sleep, reach the mafia and tell them where Eric is, and they have Eric killed. He died without telling anyone about the incest. So when I talk about getting rid of Eric, I am not talking about firing Eric.

The old scenario doesn't necessarily have to continue, it can also continue with a new scenario. Another man or woman (Anna has already started to show interest in lesbianism) can come instead of Eric. This time, Max can be the dominant character and seduce the family of the man/woman who comes. You can also be the one seducing someone else's woman in NTR. There are a lot of options. The simplest one is Eric, and Max can reach Eric's family, etc. and try to seduce them secretly. While doing this, she can reach Eric's more important secrets, if any, or seize his wealth and gain power against Eric. As I said, there are many options.

Again, of course, it is easy for me to talk from here, I am aware of that. I am also aware that it will be tiring. It may be difficult to fire Eric and reconnect him to the porn scenario. However, this time, they can try to convince Anna to go live to make money, and then they can move forward and establish a porn studio.

These are the scenarios that came to my mind while writing this message. Of course, doing so many scenarios at the same time would be difficult, tiring and take a long time. Making a "game", and especially a "game" where the story branches out, is not easy.

Finally, this is your story, your preferences, those who don't like it don't play it. However, the things I suggest will not make your game worse. In addition, they will increase its replayability. But you probably don't make enough money to try to follow this advice, so putting in more effort might not seem reasonable.

Thanks to everyone who read it, and I apologize for making it so long.
 

hoshin0119

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First of all, I know that it is easy for me to talk from here. But I still have something to say.

"Well, it depends on how you look at it. In my story, it's a confrontation between Eric and Max. Yes, Max can get rid of Eric, but since Max has already had sex with family members, not just Kira, Eric can report somewhere before he disappears that the family is practicing incest."
This part is the easiest: Give Eric sleeping pills while he is in his own house and make him sleep, reach the mafia and tell them where Eric is, and they have Eric killed. He died without telling anyone about the incest. So when I talk about getting rid of Eric, I am not talking about firing Eric.

The old scenario doesn't necessarily have to continue, it can also continue with a new scenario. Another man or woman (Anna has already started to show interest in lesbianism) can come instead of Eric. This time, Max can be the dominant character and seduce the family of the man/woman who comes. You can also be the one seducing someone else's woman in NTR. There are a lot of options. The simplest one is Eric, and Max can reach Eric's family, etc. and try to seduce them secretly. While doing this, she can reach Eric's more important secrets, if any, or seize his wealth and gain power against Eric. As I said, there are many options.

Again, of course, it is easy for me to talk from here, I am aware of that. I am also aware that it will be tiring. It may be difficult to fire Eric and reconnect him to the porn scenario. However, this time, they can try to convince Anna to go live to make money, and then they can move forward and establish a porn studio.

These are the scenarios that came to my mind while writing this message. Of course, doing so many scenarios at the same time would be difficult, tiring and take a long time. Making a "game", and especially a "game" where the story branches out, is not easy.

Finally, this is your story, your preferences, those who don't like it don't play it. However, the things I suggest will not make your game worse. In addition, they will increase its replayability. But you probably don't make enough money to try to follow this advice, so putting in more effort might not seem reasonable.

Thanks to everyone who read it, and I apologize for making it so long.
The theme of the game is NTR.
Some people hate incest and love NTR.
I play this game because I like Eric having sex with Max's family, and I don't want to see Max commit incest.
 

su wei

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The theme of the game is NTR.
Some people hate incest and love NTR.
I play this game because I like Eric having sex with Max's family, and I don't want to see Max commit incest.
Then you should go play another BB remake and focus on NTR
 
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