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Yeah ...
Main issue is that he has not a snowballs chance in hell as a totally normal and most likely traumatized "ordinary" human resisting - including TRYING TO resist - a mentally, physically and magically far superior being.
The girl he was assigned as a watchdog is able and most importantly willing to kill him in 2 seconds flat.
Basically at this point in time he is more or less FORCED to be (act as) a pussy.
That the man is "weak" and is dominated by a woman is one of the key aspects of "female domination".
Let's just say the most obvious solution to overcoming a mentally, physically and magically far superior being is to recruit another a mentally, physically and magically far superior being as an ally.
(or perhaps an entire harem of allies)
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We are talking about an AVN here, but what exactly gives you the impression that someone inferior could ally himself with someone superior in the first place?
Same as with dating in RL.
You'd want a hot 20 year old nymphomaniac model as a girlfriend, but what does SHE get? A 40 year old man with balding hair and beer belly?
Specifically in this game the succubus of smell herself is regarded as the weakest of her sisters. More or less meaning that the sisters have little to gain from allying with the inferior human.
They'd do it to "stick it to their sister" at max and in the process he'd likely trade a superior vaguely benevolent master with a far superior sadistic master.
Bravo ...
Since we are talking about an AVN the most likely solution is that MC serves in the world and gets stronger, fucks the queens brains out and gets stronger, fucks the succubus' servants brains out and gets stronger and finally fucks the succubus' brains out.
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This is the point most people seem to forget. It's called character development. I love myself an OP character from the get-go, but if a writer is worth their salt, they can plant the seeds early and grow the MC's power(and backbone) with the right script that makes the player root for them.
Personally I see a lot of potential in this MC. If through not sheer power, he has the AVN typical mind-control powers with a twist.
Hope the creator has a vision and passion in place to grow this project. Either way good luck to them.
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Hopefully people don't bitch the femdom out of the game lol. Looking forward to future content for the time being.
Everyones too busy arguing about femdom and not talking about the great alternate scene with the slime girl. There seriously isn't enough interesting slime girl stuff.
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I feel like this will be such a grind man bet it takes forever for the story to go anywhere since as i said the MC is a mega pussy it will just be dragging it out endlessly to get anywhere so i guess the MC will be stuck being some beta for along time cause you know plot and all that cause lets be honest many of these games go that route, where the MC never really develops like at all so yeah i don't see how harem or some of the other tags would even work again seeing how much of a pussy the MC is.
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Why are u complaining about a IF, the story of the game is in the early stages wait for it to develop then complain. And idk what you mean that he is a pussy, he tried to overcome the situation he was in but it was impossible for him, he atleast tried.
I would prefer if they continued with femdom throughout the whole game, where the MC can get a route where he's more submissive or that the the women have more authority or guards, so he can't go against them.
He could struggle and possible try to get on top, but then easily be shot down, possible collared with a leash and played around with. Possible hidden spells, that works like a collar, possible from several women.
He got a large dick and that's what the women mainly seeks from him, they could treat him as a pet or rape him to get off, possible share him too.
That the MC gets all powerful and a lovey-dovey harem with pure love, isn't for me.:/
He could struggle and possible try to get on top, but then easily be shot down, possible collared with a leash and played around with. Possible hidden spells, that works like a collar, possible from several women.
He got a large dick and that's what the women mainly seeks from him, they could treat him as a pet or rape him to get off, possible share him too.
That the MC gets all powerful and a lovey-dovey harem with pure love, isn't for me.:/
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What you describe is an extreme niche topic so I wouldn't hold my breath for it.
Truth is the game obviously is made to the likes of the developer, but game development includes the notion about how successful the product might be. The most basic metric is how many users will play it.
For instance to cater to the "Extreme Femdom Crowd" he'd have to say goodbye to the "Normal Crowd" as that group would almost certainly be not OK with what you described.
Don't get me wrong it is possible that what you want will happen.
Just not very likely.
Yes, but one would believe that the femdom in the intro and that the women look more dominant in the CG, would already scare of that other crowd. It felt obvious by the game description, that it would transform to maledom, but it still feels like there'll be femdom scenes too, which could likely turn to complete maledom.
There was another game which hade potential, it started out as femdom, but quickly went towards maledom and standard sex, but it had quite a good potential. I sent some suggestions to the developer or talked with him and he later did add half a femdom scene, which later converted into a weak maledom scene.
I'll just have to hope until the end.
I still don't understand, why people would have issues with having alternative paths, it's just to not the route play what you don't want to play. If I see a game with many routes into different fetishes, then I'm more inclined to try and enjoy these, due to that I might like the story of the game in general. This makes me play the standard/default/dull routes too, which could be very good. I would even play some extreme gore for specific routes, Mugen or what the game series is called, is a good example of that. It was an annoying game where you had to replay the game many times to get to different endings, which leveled up the scenarios for new content.
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In general humans like what they want and dislike what they don't want.
It is more tolerant and logical to "leave them be" but a majority of humans are not really logical.
That is why in reality gambling, scams and frauds are even possible as a concept.
And btw. if you'd want the dev to include a full femdom route for you and your compatriots you essentially are asking/demanding that s/he builds another AVN on top for a small fraction of the playerbase as with branching early on the "main story" makes no sense anymore.
In this case it would mean that MC would not search for ways to escape his contract in the first place.
Please keep in mind that this is a "fledgling dev" that more or less just started out and this is the first bigger and/or public project. Overextension is one of the reasons why the games from those devs have a high likelyhood of becoming abandoned. They simply "bite off more than they can chew" to please the majority of the players - including the fetish players - and the game they develop suffers as a whole.
In general, for more games goes abandoned by developers not fully grasping that making a game in general takes time, likely cost money if you're going to delegate some work and this can be without multiple paths. Sure some do get abandoned due to making the games too large, but many developer intentionally make the game too large, to get a an income from the game for a very long time, sure they would love to finish their game (is what they say), but when a real job and life takes priority, then the game will be dropped.
They can just get tired of the game or lose the spark for, due to many reasons.
Just as you can scale up, you can as easily scale down or put some of the paths hold.
Having several path and IF scenarios, can create a large userbase for future games and get the attention of more sponsors, which allow for a more stable income, along with interesting paths for the developers too.
So more paths, allows for a more interesting development, especially if one path gets you bored or if you get stuck, then you can focus on another path.
Some developers, do get tired of their games or possible lose their ability to write an interesting story for the rest of the game and then starts to create an entire new game. Often, some are so interested in their new ideas, which require a new game, that they dump the current one.
A good example of a developer over extending itself is for the game "A new life in submission", mainly a femdom game (two routes exist, possible three), but many of us said it would be hard to develop such a large game as you would re-use the same fetish and similar scenes too much, it would be better to create 12 games, about one per character, possible one later which combines a second year in school, otherwise you would have to limit content for most characters and limit the game, due to that you need some parts to be unique for several characters. But the developer wanted to develop the game like this and he abandoned it, saying that he wanted to come back to it, but it was to hard on his own.
I play more than femdom games, I play NTR, rape/maledom, I love tentacle games too (which would fit well in this game with some yuri content or rape, possible through familiars), horror-themed and many other genres too, but can ignore the general vanilla games, If I see the femdom tag, I'll likely try every route, even the one for vanilla content.
I talk somewhat openly here, however I bet that the majority always stays silent.
So the ones, especially on this forum, who're into different genres in their personal preference, are likely far larger than you imagine and likely larger than the default vanilla genre, if you combine the different genres, then the vanilla section is likely easily outdone. The difference is, that the majority don't talk (most users likely aren't going to go into details of their kinks or argument about it) and many starts to move out from vanilla after that have played a lot of games from it.
You aren't here to get one game, you get a buckload of games and over-play until you more or less gets used to the games and starts to look for more unique ones.
So introducing different genres, can increase the player base by a lot.
A fault many developers do, is that they don't take feedback, shield themselves from the outside and limit themselves to sort of a cult, which tends to cut possible sponsors, get you people who complain as soon that you create something which isn't in their taste (this is a small minority who makes themselves heard, a lot, like a fans who would ruin the game for their own taste) (I suggest more genres, I never complain on extra genres that others request or that the developer suggest). Imagine being a developer and running out of ideas, then asking your cult about what they would want more in the game and they're all saying: "Just continue what you're doing, limit yourself to this genre and don't step outside of it". Imagine yourself, this is often were you drop the game, slowly walking away from it. The same can go for a cult in the femdom genre, so it's always important to avoid the formation of cults.
In general, more players will stay than those who'll leave, when different or very different content are introduced and in general you will of course get more players and sponsors. Of course you don't need the most extreme parts of a certain genre. Different genres can naturally blend in with each other and often lifts each other up, when you combine them and create the possibility for a far better story.
At the same time, it could be said that with your words, you limit the potential of the developer and the game, as it sounds like you're into the maledom or vanilla genre and want this. From what I can see, the developer seems to plan to include femdom scenes, it feels very clear from what I can see and it it's a perfect genre to combine in that game.
I play maledom games too, but with small developer and sandbox or VN games like this, they tend to become horrible in my view (it's like the same sentences and scenes are reused too much). When a large developer makes games like Night shift nurses or the Kizaru seriers, then it is better, but they have a much better red-thread in their movies (I have mainly only seen the movies and played one game believe) and can be a bit more shorter.
When small developers makes very long maledom or vanilla games and don't include a lot of other tags, then you tend to get bored and drop the game. Creating a red-thread game which is on-spot all the time, is very hard and shouldn't be attempted at ones first game. So I believe that more genres and a few routes can be useful for developers working on their first games, then they can ask sponsors, what kind of content should be made into a priority and shift what they focus on, to keep more sponsors staying and own motivations up. Remember, what're you going to include, when you have overused a genre, scenes and text and just can't create anything new in the game?
But we'll see what the developer do with this game.
But remember just as asking for more genres is bad in your eyes, it's equal as bad to suggest or request that the developer limits themselves. I have seen developers who don't take feedback, those who listen to a cult, where 2-3 people starts whining as soon that the developer suggest new ideas (these people are rarely the majority), this is where a developer needs to request that they begin to sponsor more and help out to come up with ideas, which often are already over-used. Unless the game gets axed, which tend to piss people off.
Nothing wrong with your opinion, but I believe it's far better to include more genres and possibilities, where you can just chose skip when you don't want to see the scene or make a choice where it's avoided.
Femdom, don't have to be blind submission, it all depends on the writer.
Same goes for maledom, which I feel is often scenes with the same text and being to overused.
And a again, a good game often mix different genres, femdom, maledom and ntr aren't the only genres out there.
Also, when you have played a lot of game, like one do after stumbling on this forum, then I believe that the majority, gets tired of Vanilla, because we always expect more. So to catch the attention of players who played a lot of games, it's easier to create unique situations, with many genres.
I love some CG from some vanilla games, but I just don't get myself to play them even if I want to and I'll spend time working or looking for other games instead.
I have likely repeated myself, due to that I'm up on overtime.
Nothing ill against you, I just tend to write lengthy posts when I write and I can be very analytical.
Porn is about my primary hobby/addiction, it's a very important subject for me, which means a lot of text.
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I did not even make it through half of your post before facepalming hard.
You were asking for a fledgling developer to:
#1 limit the number of users considerably as there are FAR less fans for femdom than "normal" users. The users disgusted by femdom already have left ...
#2 invest way more time in developing the game, but I'm sure you are the first that is upset if the release interval is changing
Now you are demanding it with "logical" explanation ...
If you've seen the latest posts on patreon/his discord: a lot of the cosmic inter-dimensional succubi antics are fan service to the "heavy femdom crowd" whereas the main isekai plot (on the planet) is for the more normal crowd (think Goddess' whim). The heavier femdom by the succubi not directly necessary for the plot is mostly optional to view as per the main dev, but still there nonetheless as a side-gimmick for those who like femdom bdsm.
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Yes.
And do you know why?
Because the game is what shall be sold and thus it should apply to as many clients as possible.
Believe it or not "normal" users are by far the majority in numbers compared to the "heavy femdom crowd".
A lot of the isekai love interests (like half) that aren't succubi are still "dominant/assertive/aggressive" compared to the MC just not in an overly BDSM way.
(taken from the main page)
You can be still be "lovey-dovey" and have *light* femdom. Though heavier optional fan service is still planned.